Brazil: “Interview With The Bandido”

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“This is not a war like everyone in Brazil says. The Third Command, the CV, the ADA, and the Militia, which is made up of cops and ex-cops, are not friends, and certainly don’t hold hands, but there are also not enemies. Each has its own role to play. There  are fallings-out sometimes,and when this happens the result is what everyone knows about: Bullets. Lots of bullets,” “Zinho” explains.

24 Horas News (Mato Grosso) interviews “Zinho.” The context is not clear, but apparently the fellow was arrested in Cuiabá. You read more and more about Rio gangsters buying property and trying to live in discrete comfort in other regions of the country.

O homem que trás as marcas de dezenas de tiros pelo corpo, seis balas ainda estão alojadas, uma delas entre a clavícula, Luciano Fernandes, o “Zinho“, começou a conversa mentindo e falando de cabeça baixa. “Só estudei até a sétima séria“. Mentira. Logo em seguida ele levantou a cabeça e rebateu: “Eu completei o segundo grau“, para justificar a fala bem coordenada.

A man with the marks of dozens of bullet wounds on his body, and six bullets still lodged inside him, one of them in his collarbone, Luciano “Zinho” Fernandes began our conversation by lying and talking with his head down. “I only studied up until the seventh grade.” Lie. He soon lifts his head and responds, “I finished high school,” to explain why he is so well-spoken.

Nice lede graf. Simple, yet vivid. Mato Grosso and other regional journalism is a very interesting phenomenon. You read very little about the “thick jungles” in the major metrosexual news agencies — much as you read very little about Brooklyn (a couple of million voters, after all) in the Grey Lady.

“Zinho” conta que teve que matar uma vítima de assalto como se conta uma história qualquer. “Tive que matar. Eu fui apenas asssaltar o cara. Só que ele reagiu e me atingiu seis vezes. Eu escapei e ele morreu. Não gosto de matar inocente, mas foi o jeito. Era ele ou eu“.

“Zinho” recounts how he had to kill a robbery victim as though it were nothing extraordinary. “I had to kill him. I was just going to rob the guy, but he fought back and hit me six times. I got away and he died. I do not like to kill innocent people, but that was the way it was. It was him or me.”

Questionado sobre as outras mortes, ele evita falar nos homicídios de pessoas comuns, mas duas pessoas que ele matou dentro de presídios ele também com naturalidade. “Matei um maluco que eu não me lembro o nome. Parece que ele era do Comando Vermelho, mas não foi pela rivalidade entre as facção, a minha o Terceiro Comando, e da dele. O matei porque ele estava enchendo o meu saco“.

Asked about the other deaths, he avoids talking about the murder of ordinary people, but talks readily about two people he killed in prison. “I killed this crazy guy whose name I don’t remember. It seems he was from the [Red Command, or CV, a Rio drug gang], but this was not a gang rivalry, between my gang, which is the Third Command, and his. I killed him because I was fed up with the guy.”

Sobre a execução de Kaco, um “irmão“ dele de facção: o Terceiro Comando, “Zinho“ foi mas direto. “Esse cara também estava enchendo a minha paciência. Como eu sabia que, mais dia, menos dia a gente tinha que partir para um enfrentamento direto. Ou seja, era ele ou eu, não tive dúvidas em mandá-lo logo para o inferno. Não matei para assumir o lugar dele como líder, matei por um problema pessoal. Não gosto muito de falar sobre isso, mas já falei e pronto“.

On the murder of Kaco, a “brother” from the same faction, the Third Command, “Zinho” was more direct. “That guy was also trying my patience. I knew that one day or another we were going to get into it. That is, it was him or me, I did not hesitate to send him straight to hell. I did not kill him to take his leadership position, I killed him over a personal matter. I do not like to talk about this much, but now I have said it and it’s said.”

“Zinho“ também falou sobre as quatro facções criminosas do Rio de Janeiro, uma delas, o Terceiro Comando ligada diretamente ao PCC. Ele afirma muita gente fala horrores, mas por serem facções ligados ao crime organizado, muitas vezes elas têm que manter, pelo menos a aparência.

“Zinho” also spoke of the four criminal factions of Rio, one of them, the Third Command, with direct ties to the PCC. He says that while many people tell horror stories, because they are gangs tied to organized crime, a lot of times they have to keep up appearances, at least.

“Não é uma guerra como falam pelo Brasil afora. O Terceiro Comando, o Comando Vermelho a Amigos Dos Amigos (ADA) e a Milícia, formada por policiais e ex-policiais, não são amigas, muito menos andam de mãos dadas, mas também não são inimigas. Cada uma faz o seu papel. Às vezes acontecem desavenças, e quando isso acontecem desfecho automático todo o Brasil sabe, é a bala. E muita bala“, explica “Zinho“.

“This is not a war like everyone in Brazil says. The Third Command, the CV, the ADA, and the Militia, which is made up of cops and ex-cops, are not friends, and certainly don’t hold hands, but there are also not enemies. Each has its own role to play. There  are fallings-out sometimes,and when this happens the result is what everyone knows about: Bullets. Lots of bullets,” “Zinho” explains.    

Mildly surprising statement, which is sort of what you would expect from an “interview with the surprisingly articulate bandido.”

The item popped up in a standing Google News Alert of mine on “milicias +rio.”

O assaltante diz que estava em Cuiabá há pouco mais de um mês, mas não quis revelar o que estava fazendo aqui. “Vim de correria de Rondônia, parei na casa onde fui preso porque o dono da casa é meu amigo-primo, quase irmão. Mas ele é um bobalhão, não sabe dana de crime, muito menos o que eu já fiz na vida“. conclui.

The robber says he was in Cuiabá a little over a month ago, but did not want to say what he was doing there. “I came running in from Rondônia, I stayed at the house where I got arrested because the owner of the house is my first cousin, practically my brother. But he is a big dope, he doesn’t know squat about crime, much less what I have done with my life,” he concludes.

Last week, a Brazilian federal appeals court denied a write of habeas corpus to “Jerominho of the Justice League” of Rio de Janeiro, a city councilmember from the DEM (ex-PFL) political party.

He is accused of engaging in organized crime activities — including the bingo and the bicho — and “Vote Quimby or my friend here will blow your fucking head off with his service revolver” political campaigning reminiscent of good old Mono Mancuso of the AUC. Along with his brother, a state deputy in the opposite political camp.

The Folha reported.

O STJ (Superior Tribunal de Justiça) negou habeas corpus que pedia a extinção do processo contra o vereador do Rio Jerônimo Guimarães Filho (DEM), o Jerominho, e seu irmão, o deputado estadual Natalino Guimarães (PMDB) –que dividiu palanque com o presidente Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva em fevereiro deste ano. Ambos seriam líderes de uma milícia e são acusados de formação de quadrilha, coação de pessoas à prática de crimes e de planejar assassinatos que não ocorreram. A decisão foi publicada nesta segunda-feira.

The STJ denied a writ of habeas corpus that would dismiss the case against city councilmember Jerônimo Guimarães Filho (DEM) and his brother, state lawmaker Natalino Guimarães (PMDB) — who shared a stage with President da Silva in February of this year. Both are leaders of a militia and are accused of criminal conspiracy, coercing persons into committing crimes and planning assassinations that never came off. The decision was published [last] Monday.

President Squid is supported by grotesque criminal-cop-parapoliticians!

It seems fairer to note that while one brother supports the situation, the other supports the opposition, while both are (allegedly) mobbed up to the gills. Organized pilantragens seem to bridge the historical differences among the former adversaries, the PFL and MDB, at certain points.

Eis a xis da questão. See also

Police pressure on clandestine van services and other “militia”-run businesses continues, with very modest press coverage, I was noticing. Will take some notes when I get a chance.

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